Begum Raza, This pathetic creature is getting to be too boring, yOu may think.  But he is at it  forever, INCESSANTLY at instigatIng communal xenophobic hatred that has resulted in the  unwanted deaths of innocent CIVIL RIGHTS volunteers in the legitimate social org like RSS na dplitical org like BJP.  Mr Shetty of Mangalore who was hacked to death for no reason at all, by his buddies, comes to my mind.  This other slaughter of innocent unarmed civilians at the hands of super privileged buddies are here:=

////////////////2 held from Sakleshpur hotel DH News Service Mangalore:
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/dec152006/district
The special police team formed to nab the accused in the Sukhanand Shetty murder case has succeeded in arresting two persons involved in the murder thus achieving a major breakthrough in the 14-day-old murder case.
The arrested have been identified as Akbar Kabeer (28), a resident of Anebali house in Gurupura Moolur village in Mangalore taluk and one of the prime accused in the murder case. The other person arrested is Saleem (27),
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Brutal murder of Sukhanand Shetty
The secular mafia of mass media in India under the deathly stranglehold of the UPA Government in New Delhi has completely blacked out the lethal crime relating to the cold blooded and brutal murder of 30 year old Sukhanand Shetty, BJP Taluk President, in the city of Mangalore on 1 December, 2006 by a criminal gang of 12 Muslims. Sukhanand Shetty was an up and coming Hindu leader noted for his outstanding qualities of leadership. He had led the Hindus of the area with fearlessness and courage against all criminal and anti-social elements in the community.
Sukhanand Shetty
He was working as a Manager in a Marble dealer's office at Kulai, 12 kms away from Mangalore. On 1 December, 2006 at 9.15 am, as he was about to enter his office after getting down from his car, a group of Muslims came in a van and attacked him with sword and killed him on the spot savagely. His head and various vital parts of his body were cut into pieces with Jihadic fervour.////////////

EXHIBIT-B of xenophobic hate crime: //////////////
Marriage Runs Into Trouble Ahmedabad, June 12: The wedding between a Hindu girl and a Muslim man in Gujarat has run into trouble after the girl claimed that she was "forced into the marriage and kept in confinement."
The girl, Hetal Dave, who had married Allauddin on April 22, returned to her parents’ house on June 7
after her parents approached the Gujarat high court, police officials probing the case said. Both of them live in a village in Sabarkantha district but got married in Ahmedabad.
"I was forced into this wedding by Allauddin. He took me to a Masjid on some pretext and forced me into marriage", Dave said. "When I protested, he threatened to kill my family members. After the Nikah I was
taken to Anand, Surat and Vadodara. They did not allow me to communicate with my parents," Dave said. And rushed to add, “the girl was kept in a very bad condition." owner of a local hotel in Sakleshpur town in Hassan district who had harboured the accused Kabeer while committing the crime.//////////

This might well be the tip of the ice-berg. How many muslim women have come fwd to stop this? What percent have been put in jail and how much compensation is being paid out for the mental agony, or loss of life or property over the past several centuries?///////
EXHIBIT-C of xenophobic rape crime by KALAM: /////////////////
  SC upholds conviction of rapist on child victim's testimony
New Delhi, Jun 15 2008 A minor rape victim's testimony is reliable and can be used for convicting an accused, the Supreme Court has said while upholding the punishment of ten years RI awarded to a six-year-old girl's rapist.
A bench of Justices Arijit Pasayat and P P Naolekar, however, reasoned that "ends of justice would be met" by reducing the sentence to five years.

A sessions court in Bihar had earlier convicted and sentenced Md Kalam to ten years RI and a fine of Rs 500 for raping the minor under Section 376 IPC (conviction for rape).

Kalam's appeal before the Patna High Court was dismissed following which he appealed in the apex court.

In the apex court, Kalam took the plea that the two subordinate courts had wrongly convicted him by relying upon the testimony of a child without further corroboration. He also claimed that the sentence imposed on him was too harsh.

It was pointed out that the victim, immediately after the rape, had told her mother about the incident and, therefore, her evidence is of considerable importance.////////////
EXHIBIT-D of xenophobic hate crime: ////////////////
"CUDDALORE, OCT. 28. The Cuddalore police claim to have busted a fundamentalist outfit — Manitha Neethi Pasarai (MNP) located at Nellikuppam — which has been allegedly converting Dalits into Islam and imparting training to them in handling weapons and martial arts.

The police have rounded up 15 persons... and seized from them long sickles, **foreign-made**daggers, cellphones (one having Arabic names and numerals), audio and video cassettes, an amplifier, a binocular, a camera, digital diaries, incriminating documents and Rs. 85,000 (in the denomination of Rs. 500).

But the masterminds, Khaja Mohideen (45) of Neyveli and Abdul Khani of Keezhakarai have escaped."

EXHIBIT-E of xenophobic hate crime in nexus with xian crooks: ///////////////
DAVANGERE DHNS: In a major breakthrough, Davangere police have busted an inter-State
human trafficking racket and have arrested six persons Ashraf Mohmad and Amir Ali
belonging to Vynadu and Kasaragodu districts in Kerala, Herald Jerome De' Souza from
Udupi, Ibrahim and Shama from Mysore and Davangere resident Ashifa Banu have been
arrested in this connection.//////

EXHIBIT-F of xenophobic hate crime in mobocracy://///////////
Hindu marries Muslim, angry mob kills brother
Press Trust of India Posted online: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 at 1220 hours IST
Vadodara, January 18: A mob killed a youth in Gajipura locality in neighbouring Kheda district, police said.
The youth identified as Pappu Rana was killed by the mob because his brother Vijay Rana had married a Muslim girl, Minaz, police said.
The minority community members had protested Vijay getting married to Minaz.
Police authorities had set up a police point with three policemen in the area to provide protection to the Rana family.
Despite police protection the group belonging to minority community managed to attack Pappu Rana with sharp weapons and killed him.
Meanwhile, all the three policemen posted at the locality have been suspended for dereliction of duty. In view of this tense situation in the area, additional company of SRP from the state headquarters has been stationed.

EXHIBIT-G of xenophobic hate crime in mobocracy :
////////////Mob clashes with police, frees criminal
Patna, Feb 3: Armed locals fired at police wounding one constable and set free an arrested criminal here this morning. Police said inhabitants of Kasai Mohalla under Phulwarisharif police station limits fought pitched battle with a police team which had arrested a notorious criminal Jabir Quereshi and set free the arrested criminal.  Enraged over the arrest of Quereshi, the locals blocked the way of the police team and asked them to hand over the criminal.
As the police refused to hand him over, the crowd started hurling stones and assaulted a few policemen resulting in minor injuries to them.
In the melee, a man in the crowd opened fire injuring a constable in the leg. Reinforcements have been rushed to the place and raids are on to rearrest the criminal and apprehend those involved in the attack on policemen, sources added. Published: Friday, February 03, 2006

EXHIBIT-H of xenophobic rape crime://///////////
SC upholds conviction of rapist on child victim's testimony
New Delhi, Jun 15 2008 A minor rape victim's testimony is reliable and can be used for convicting an accused, the Supreme Court has said while upholding the punishment of ten years RI awarded to a six-year-old girl's rapist.
A bench of Justices Arijit Pasayat and P P Naolekar, however, reasoned that "ends of justice would be met" by reducing the sentence to five years.

A sessions court in Bihar had earlier convicted and sentenced Md Kalam to ten years RI and a fine of Rs 500 for raping the minor under Section 376 IPC (conviction for rape).

Kalam's appeal before the Patna High Court was dismissed following which he appealed in the apex court.

In the apex court, Kalam took the plea that the two subordinate courts had wrongly convicted him by relying upon the testimony of a child without further corroboration. He also claimed that the sentence imposed on him was too harsh.

It was pointed out that the victim, immediately after the rape, had told her mother about the incident and, therefore, her evidence is of considerable importance.
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With this the death toll in Vadodara went up to three in communal clashes in the last 24 hours.
Twenty-three-year-old Paresh Purushwani was going on a scooter with a friend at around 11.30 am when he was attacked by a mob of around 200 with sharp instruments. He was brought to the SSG hospital where he succumbed to his injuries. The fate of his friend was not known till Friday afternoon.////////////

Equal rights, my foot!?  It is a joke when everything in ths islamic state of HIndustan is unequal where special treatment and excessive privileges abound to the minority nazi type islamofascists who talk, walk and quack like nazis!!  Both maino's India and saddam's Iraq has had "secularism" that force minority apartheid rule over majority Civil Society excluding the latter from special privileges and benefits only the ruling class enjoy or enjoyed.  As for hitler,  he conned  the minority german public  to rule majority europeans by sheer savagery much like congi-walas with savage islamic communalism is ruling India now. 

Europe was illegally occupied by nazis much like India is now illegitimately occupied by savage islamic communalists long after two homelands were carved out for their barbaric cousins in
the most fertile (INDUS AND GANGETIC) deltas of the sub-continent.

It is a muslim who wrote this:
"Jinnah's speech in the constituent assembly of Pakistan in 1947 in which he makes the case of secularism after having attacked hindus and hinduism repeatedly in public speeches, and after being personally responsible for communal slaughter on a large scale (like after his call for 'Direct Action')  reminds one of an arsonist who puts to fire a building and then throws a few drops of water on the ashes of the burnt edifice."  There are zillions of jinah types (smiling assassins) in mfsd and other islamic communal outfits.

ERADJI, I am glad you exposed "vulgar secular brutes, secular clowns, secular chaddis,  secular eunuchs, secular evangelists, secular rioters and finally secular savages"  to quote Munir Akram.

One Indian's rebuttal to a criminal commie goes like this:
" Truthbetold3 posted Re:Indian definitions of on 2 days ago
Yo comrade sir,
your mental gymnastics show your brilliance.  Why don't you criticize your secular leader Mulayam who joins maulanas and disrupts public life and causes millions of rupees of life to protest cartoons? Why don't you criticize Mulayam when declares namaz time on fridays frittering away public time and millions of rupees fo productivity? 

Why don't you criticize Haj subsidy which is absolutely anti secular by any measure?

Then , comrade sir, we can discuss other wasteful expenditures.

I know your tongue gets tied when it comes to be objective"

Erad,

You said, " The Constitution gives me the right to criticise fundamentalist Muslims like you."

I agree. Which is why I support our secular Constitution and the freedoms & rights this provides to all citizens irrespective of community, religion or lack of religion.

Please criticse me till your nose turns blue. I promise to do the same by way of criticising you.

That is just my point -- actions (such as preventing the movie Parzania within Gujarat)  interfere the freedom of others to express their views. And THIS amounts to a subversion of both our Constitution as also of civilised norms of conduct....

Anand

Bademiyan,

"You are very much included among "the religionwallas" that I am sticking my neck out to demonstrate against -- and I am a liberal precisely because I can recognize you too as among those who seek to ban books, paintings, movies etc on grounds that these hurt your religious sentiments...."

 Your self serving claims are rooted in hypocrisy and pusillanimity. You need to give up those pretensions to sticking your neck out.  You oppose some "religionwallas" precisely because you know you will not come to any harm. On the other hand you go along with the Muslim thugs because you know they can show you your place in no uncertain terms. You are no liberal , you are on the side of the Islamic scum. Taslima Nasrin is a liberal, Salman Rusdie is a liberal but people like you who happily go along with the Islamists while striking all kinds of liberal poses by opposing Hindutva are a blot on liberalism and secularism.believe Muslims have the right to deny equal rights, you belive Muslims have the right to sequester their  women, you believe in sharia, you Muslims have the right to ban books, you believe Muslim women should not get maintenance from their former husbands after divorce, you believe muslims should have the right to triple talaq. You are an Islamist. 

"What makes you eligible to criticize fundamentaists of other religions, when you are  yourself a peddler of communal hate?"

The Constitution gives me the right to criticise fundamentalist Muslims like you. And there is nothing wrong about hating what is eminently hate worthy - real liberals like Salman Rushdie, Taslima Nasrin, Wafa Sultan make no bones about what they hate. 
Only Islamists like you hide behind the hate argument to defend the rights of Muslims to piss on the constitution.

Erad,

You are very much included among "the religionwallas" that I am sticking my neck out to demonstrate against -- and I am a liberal precisely because I can recognize you too as among those who seek to ban books, paintings, movies etc on grounds that these hurt your religious sentiments....

What makes you eligible to criticize fundamentaists of other religions, when you are  yourself a peddler of communal hate?

Anand

Bademiyan,
"Typically you have not given the reference link for the "article by Soumitro Das in a recent issue of Hindustan Times" based on which you wrote this blog.

A search at Hindustan Times indicated that the last contribution by someone named Soumitro Das was on 08 Oct 2007, this classified as "story/ fiction". "

Dont sweat the small stuff, Bademiyan. Get hold of a copy of HIndustan Times Mumbai edition 15 April, you will find the article. 

"However, I broadly agree with what you quoted as from this unreferenced article:-"

So if you broadly agree with the para, sticking your neck out to demonstrate to the religionwallas etc. by the author. But you won't do that, because after all you can't expect liberal mice to bell the Islamic fat cats. 

Erad

Bademiyan
"....... and I have responded to each of your comments in great detail. Do you have anything new to say? Or is it the same old stale stuff?"

You have preferred to cop out almost every time I commented on your blogs. So instead of asking me to say anything new why not respond instead of copping out to whatever you mean by the old stuff. For instance, I asked you to live up to your alleged secular, liberal beliefs by petitioning the government to lift the ban on the Satanic Verses. I once again appeal to you and your liberal friends to petition the government to lift the ban  or accept that you are no liberals, you are an Islamists.  

Erad,

Curiosity -- if not great expectations -- made me go to your blog, "Why we are NOT a Democracy"!

Typically you have not given the reference link for the "article by Soumitro Das in a recent issue of Hindustan Times" based on which you wrote this blog.

A search at Hindustan Times indicated that the last contribution by someone named Soumitro Das was on 08 Oct 2007, this classified as "story/ fiction".

However, I broadly agree with what you quoted as from this unreferenced article:-

"Equal respect for all religions has turned out to be equal appeasement of all religions, whereas true secularism of the European variety, means exactly the opposite - equal distance from all religions. So unless we have people who are willing to risk their lives and demonstrate to the religionwallas that there are things more important than God, we are going to slide towards authoritarianism of the Asian kind."

Anand

Erad,

India is a democratic and secular state in the eyes of people who do not prefer theocracy, or a culture-supramacist Hindu Rashtra. This is good enough for me.

I state my views clearly in my blogs. You have often commented on these, and I have responded to each of your comments in great detail. Do you have anything new to say? Or is it the same old stale stuff?

Anand

Hi Bade Miyan
Even so called seculars have now starting getting it. India is NOT a secular state. 
Read my blog "Why we are NOT a Democracy". http://erad.sulekha.com/blog/post/2008/04/why-we-are-not-a-democracy.htm